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	<description>On the Emergence of the Social Web</description>
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		<title>By: Who Owns This Conversation, Part Two &#171; The Real McCrea</title>
		<link>http://therealmccrea.com/2008/04/12/who-owns-this-conversation/#comment-685</link>
		<dc:creator>Who Owns This Conversation, Part Two &#171; The Real McCrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I won&#8217;t rehash the whole discussion here, but here&#8217;s a few of the central posts, in addition to mine: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fractured Commenting (I&#8217;m late to this, but I&#8217;m early, too) :: sarahintampa</title>
		<link>http://therealmccrea.com/2008/04/12/who-owns-this-conversation/#comment-641</link>
		<dc:creator>Fractured Commenting (I&#8217;m late to this, but I&#8217;m early, too) :: sarahintampa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gray pushed the meme forward, and then Scoble said bloggers have lost control. Numerous others had their say [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lars Hilse</title>
		<link>http://therealmccrea.com/2008/04/12/who-owns-this-conversation/#comment-636</link>
		<dc:creator>Lars Hilse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John, 

as someone who believes in "common sense over laws and regulations" I must say that I had an itch in my upper stomach region when reading that there are "no rules" (as of yet) which I think is good. 

The point being, that the self regulation of content doesn't work out at all... Remeber the discussion the two of us had when Pulse introduced that system? 

Upon having lead the discussion mentioned above on LinkedIn also I got some valuable feedback which brought me to the same conclusion... On "self regulated" content you'll always have those frustrated, self announced cyber sherrifs who will be prowling all day just for that one post with this one wrong (and heck, I don't considder my english to be perfect but there are people out there doing a worse job then I am) sentence just to be the first to BANG the sh*t out of this user that DARED to post something against the terms of service or alike. 

Bottom line: The knowledge that I contribute to mass collaboration platforms is - at least for my understanding - free, as are my blog posts and everything else. And will most likely help someone have an easier time with something because I have given thought to it prior. For those that do not considder this as satisfactory enough: too bad - don't contribute if you can't live with it. This being said: I'd make myself a total idiot if I were to publish something for free and then come running, saying that I want money for it... 

All the best from the other end of the world

Lars Hilse
Web Strategist &#124; Speaker &#124; Social Networker &#124; Entrepreneur
http://www.lars-hilse.de/
direct +49 4835 9513030 &#124; mobile +49 173 5433491 &#124; 
Germany +49 (0)1801 5557775788 &#124; UK +44 (0)870 9749050 &#124; USA +1 206-203-5212</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John, </p>
<p>as someone who believes in &#8220;common sense over laws and regulations&#8221; I must say that I had an itch in my upper stomach region when reading that there are &#8220;no rules&#8221; (as of yet) which I think is good. </p>
<p>The point being, that the self regulation of content doesn&#8217;t work out at all&#8230; Remeber the discussion the two of us had when Pulse introduced that system? </p>
<p>Upon having lead the discussion mentioned above on LinkedIn also I got some valuable feedback which brought me to the same conclusion&#8230; On &#8220;self regulated&#8221; content you&#8217;ll always have those frustrated, self announced cyber sherrifs who will be prowling all day just for that one post with this one wrong (and heck, I don&#8217;t considder my english to be perfect but there are people out there doing a worse job then I am) sentence just to be the first to BANG the sh*t out of this user that DARED to post something against the terms of service or alike. </p>
<p>Bottom line: The knowledge that I contribute to mass collaboration platforms is - at least for my understanding - free, as are my blog posts and everything else. And will most likely help someone have an easier time with something because I have given thought to it prior. For those that do not considder this as satisfactory enough: too bad - don&#8217;t contribute if you can&#8217;t live with it. This being said: I&#8217;d make myself a total idiot if I were to publish something for free and then come running, saying that I want money for it&#8230; </p>
<p>All the best from the other end of the world</p>
<p>Lars Hilse<br />
Web Strategist | Speaker | Social Networker | Entrepreneur<br />
<a href="http://www.lars-hilse.de/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lars-hilse.de/</a><br />
direct +49 4835 9513030 | mobile +49 173 5433491 |<br />
Germany +49 (0)1801 5557775788 | UK +44 (0)870 9749050 | USA +1 206-203-5212</p>
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		<title>By: Voices On Shyftr &#171; memoirs on a rainy day</title>
		<link>http://therealmccrea.com/2008/04/12/who-owns-this-conversation/#comment-631</link>
		<dc:creator>Voices On Shyftr &#171; memoirs on a rainy day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Who owns this post? Are pageviews still relevant? Should blog content creators be upset? Is Shyftr crossing the line? Let it all just go? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: therealmccrea</title>
		<link>http://therealmccrea.com/2008/04/12/who-owns-this-conversation/#comment-621</link>
		<dc:creator>therealmccrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Louis,

Plaxo Pulse certainly didn't "copy" my story; I chose to share my blog into Pulse, so that my piece of the social graph over there can see what I'm writing here without having to know my blog URL or futz around with RSS. As a result, I've got family and friends reading my thoughts who would otherwise have missed them. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Louis,</p>
<p>Plaxo Pulse certainly didn&#8217;t &#8220;copy&#8221; my story; I chose to share my blog into Pulse, so that my piece of the social graph over there can see what I&#8217;m writing here without having to know my blog URL or futz around with RSS. As a result, I&#8217;ve got family and friends reading my thoughts who would otherwise have missed them. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: therealmccrea</title>
		<link>http://therealmccrea.com/2008/04/12/who-owns-this-conversation/#comment-620</link>
		<dc:creator>therealmccrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naysayer: As far as I know (knew?), Plaxo was the first Web 2.0 user-generated content aggregation system, but I'm happy to be corrected. I'll take a look at Mugshot. And happy to hear from others with other examples. Either way, my real point is that aggregation is a rising wave and will be an important apect of the ecosystem going forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naysayer: As far as I know (knew?), Plaxo was the first Web 2.0 user-generated content aggregation system, but I&#8217;m happy to be corrected. I&#8217;ll take a look at Mugshot. And happy to hear from others with other examples. Either way, my real point is that aggregation is a rising wave and will be an important apect of the ecosystem going forward.</p>
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		<title>By: naysayer</title>
		<link>http://therealmccrea.com/2008/04/12/who-owns-this-conversation/#comment-615</link>
		<dc:creator>naysayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 07:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"feed aggregators... first Plaxo Pulse, last summer"

Um. Mugshot: http://blog.mugshot.org/?m=200604

First post was 2 years ago. You keep talking like Plaxo invented this concept...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;feed aggregators&#8230; first Plaxo Pulse, last summer&#8221;</p>
<p>Um. Mugshot: <a href="http://blog.mugshot.org/?m=200604" rel="nofollow">http://blog.mugshot.org/?m=200604</a></p>
<p>First post was 2 years ago. You keep talking like Plaxo invented this concept&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Gray</title>
		<link>http://therealmccrea.com/2008/04/12/who-owns-this-conversation/#comment-613</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 05:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plaxo Pulse also copied your story and offered comments.
http://pulse.plaxo.com/pulse/events/show/43867506</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plaxo Pulse also copied your story and offered comments.<br />
<a href="http://pulse.plaxo.com/pulse/events/show/43867506" rel="nofollow">http://pulse.plaxo.com/pulse/events/show/43867506</a></p>
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